60 1 you know, with Epstein, and with Maxwell, and those 2 sorts of things. 3 So you start to look at the flight logs and 4 you see what's going on is not just events that are 5 occurring in Florida, but it's occurring on a multi 6 state basis which now starts to make it a federal crime. 7 For example, we are seeing evidence that -- let's just 8 talk about Virginia Roberts since she's central to this 9 case. 10 We are seeing Virginia Roberts being flown 11 from Florida to New York where she's in the clutches of 12 Jeffrey Epstein who is sexually abusing her, you know, 13 many times a week. And not just Jeffrey Epstein, but 14 other powerful persons, for example, Ghislane Maxwell is 15 there with him on all of these flights and apparently 16 being involved in the abuse. 17 Indeed -- and so you have you have -- you 18 have -- you have that. You also start to see on the 19 flight logs, what to my mind are some very sinister 20 things, suggesting that the pattern is not just confined 21 to sort of, you know, the girls that are there in 22 Florida, but it is extending more broadly. 23 Like one to my mind sinister and scary things 24 on the flight logs is we see, you know, Virginia Roberts 25 who we know has been sexually abused and we see Jeffrey ROUGH DRAFT ONLY HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_021883