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James PATTERSON | you, that is—it’s a significant thing, okay? Now, you came This is what we'd ! in, you cooperated with us. The question we have for you i some of your ex. now is, do you want to continue cooperating with us and try Now, the questior and help us make a case against Jeff? ; working for Jeff, i DOBBS: I don't think that’s really going to help me in the long i : to Jeff? Or can wi | run, though. I’ve already admitted to a second-degree felony, a you make a call a: : right? q q know, these guys FRICK: Yeah, you have. g everything?” Our DOBBS: Okay, so there you go. What's going to keep me out of 4 a right? trouble? It’s not going to keep me out of trouble. I've already q a ~ RECAREY: With your admitted committing a crime. } a FRICK: Let me, let FRICK: I’m not going to argue with that.... 3 a 4 thing, okay? Then DOBBS: So basically I just fucked myself. I can go two ways. I a ‘ leading to the de | can agree not to cooperate, which is going to put me at— —™ a second-degree fel: well—now you can use the second-degree felony against me. | = demeanor. Binet | Or you can help and work with it and maybe get myself some 4 not going to take y slack... a DOBBS: Not today. | FRICK: We're still talkin’ here. What would the odds be of you q 4 FRICK: Well, you're— contacting Jeff at this point? Have you had any contact with j 4 ate and if we can— him at all? ; _ ‘not —that’s not uf DOBBS: I have not had any contact— q "would do is if we: FRICK: How about with— 4 _ Meanor, we'd give DOBBS: No, none of em. None of’em...-1 had a phone call about — 4 in, you know.” four or five months ago, and I told my parents. Look, I swear — ‘ RECAREY: You sign it to you I'm not anywhere —like, no connection with him at : /FRICK: That’s our pr all. That’s why I pretty much got my number changed. I have ~ a forthright with us, not made any communication with him. It stopped. . RECAREY: Very truth: FRICK: Okay. Well, 1 mean, that’s good. That’s good that you , q Be stopped. .

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