1 let me clear all of that misunderstanding up. 2 You know, that's -- frankly, if I had gotten 3 something like that, that's what I would have 4 said. 5 The answer that came back was -- from 6 Mr. Dershowitz was something along the lines of, 7 if I remember correctly, well, tell me what 8 you -- you -- tell me what you want to know and 9 I'll decide whether to cooperate, was I think 10 the phrase that was used. And -- and so there 11 was an attempt, you know, a 2009 attempt, a 2011 12 attempt to get information from Mr. Dershowitz. 13 Then there was another subpoena without 14 deposition for -- for documents. You know, we 15 have heard a lot about records in this case that 16 could prove innocence. There was a records 17 request to Mr. Dershowitz in 2013. And, again, 18 my understanding was that there was no -- you 19 know, no documents were provided on that. 20 And so those -- I had that information. 21 Another bit of information that I had was that in ae 2011, I believe in early April -- this is not 23 attorney/client privileged information from 24 Virginia Roberts. This is a telephone call that Zn) she placed from Australia where she had been ESQUIRE HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_015550