HOUSE OVERSIGHT 012534 sor & Associates R*peraganitTrotwriptitv,Inp. Page 20 1 2 listen -- he would talk to you about life and about -- 3 A. Yes. 4 Q. -- about what you wanted to do with your 5 life? 6 A. Yes. 7 Q. And he said, "If you ever find yourself in 8 trouble, you have a friend in me and you can give me a 9 call"? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. Okay. If you had to guess -- and 12 recognizing that there can be no accuracy here -- if you 13 had to guess, how many times do you think you went over 14 to Jeffrey's house? 15 A. I would say at least five, less than ten. 16 Q. Okay. I think that's kind of a fair range. 17 And during those five to ten times that you 18 went there, was there ever anything uncomfortable, in 19 your mind, that occurred over at Jeffrey's house? 20 A. No. 21 Q. Okay. I know we've touched on this, but 22 just Lilly, the detail person, makes sure that we get 23 everything. After you met Jeffrey the first time did you 24 ever talk to him on the telephone about arranging a 25 massage or anything like that? Q. And in fact, did he not tell you that,