HOUSE OVERSIGHT 012532 sor 8,t Associates 'Wolin =4 TrimoTiptiori, hi. Page 18 1 Q. And it would just be totally random and it 2 would occur during the moment? 3 A. Uh-huh. 4 Q. Okay. There was nothing that was planned 5 in advance concerning that? 6 A. No. 7 Q. And it didn't become every time you went 8 over there that would happen, right? 9 A. Yeah. No. 10 Q. No, no. I mean just you would go over and 11 give a massage one day and the phone call would be the 12 same, "Do you want to come over and give a massage," and 13 maybe -- 14 A. Yes. 15 Q. -- maybe another time you would get a phone 16 call, "Do you want to come over and give a massage," and 17 just because of the day it was or whatever was going on, 18 it may have gone a little further where they may have 19 been some touching, correct? 20 A. Right. 21 Q. And then the next time you could go over 22 there and it could have been a regular massage again, 23 right? 24 A. Uh-huh. 25 Q. Okay. So the point that I guess I'm trying -uw—ataratsontesagi cwa.alsaftate 1