110 H3vlgiu2 ih MS. McCAWLEY: Do you want me to address that, your 2 Honor? I mean, it's our evidence that we're trying to get in. 3 Or do you want me to wait? 4 THE COURT: Well, you don't know. The defense doesn't 5 know. 6 MR. PAGLIUCA: There is no way. There is no way to 7 present these documents, your Honor. 8 THE COURT: Yes. Okay. All right. Because there's 9 no DOJ witness listed. 10 MR. PAGLIUCA: There is no record custodian at all for 1a these documents. Detective Recarey in his deposition -- and 12 you have this, the relevant answers to these questions -- 13 acknowledged that they don't have any of this evidence. And so 14 that's going to be, you know -- you have seen, in multiple 15 filings from the plaintiffs, they attach excerpted documents 16 containing what they say are phone messages secured from the de trash pulls. So that would be an example of evidence for which 18 there is no record custodian. Frankly, I don't know who the 19 source of any of that information is. This is yet another 20 piece of information that has appeared, I'm presuming through 21 Mr. Edwards getting it somehow, you know, in relation to some 22 other case and then it appears in discovery in this case. And 23 what it looks like is, you know, a number of, you know, what 24 they say are photocopies of message pads from Epstein's trash. 25 But there is no person who will say, this particular piece of SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011413