102 H3vlgiu2 ih THE COURT: So that's part of her net worth. I mean, 2 that's part of the financial part. I don't see how that gets 3 into the liability case. 4 MR. CASSELL: Right. So Epstein was the one who 5 provided the loan to get that -- 6 THE COURT: Says who? 7 MR. CASSELL: Ms. McCawley, who took Maxwell's 8 deposition, is advising me that during Maxwell's deposition, 9 she conceded that. 10 THE COURT: Well, all right. Okay. But that isn't 1a financial information. That's the relationship between Maxwell 12 and Epstein. 13 MR. CASSELL: Right. I think you and I are on the 14 same page. My concern is that we may, as on other issues, may 15 not be on the same page with the defendant. 16 THE COURT: I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong. de MR. CASSELL: There's one other point, if I can just 18 be heard on the townhouse. The townhouse was sold at a time 19 shortly after Ms. Maxwell is discussing with her advisers, hey, 20 I could get sued for libel. We believe that transferring 21 $17 million outside the jurisdiction of your Honor -- 22 THE COURT: Tell me about that after you've got a 23 verdict. 24 MR. CASSELL: All right. But we want to introduce it 25 during the trial to show consciousness of guilt, that she is SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011405