H3VOGIU1 ° ih THE COURT: It has to do with credibility. 2 MS. McCAWLEY: Well, your Honor, I would say, if 3 you're inclined to think that that has -- 4 THE COURT: Well, look. I'm no genius. I don't claim 5 any -- but you know, that is precisely what the defense is 6 going to say. 7 MS. McCAWLEY: Right. I understand, your Honor. And 8 that's why we sought to depose him because it's inherently 9 unfair -- 10 THE COURT: Okay. So you would say I made a mistake. 1a MS. McCAWLEY: No, your Honor. I think it should be 12 excluded, and in my view, I think it's not relevant to the 13 issue at trial here. But they are, of course, going to argue 14 that it is and that they want to bring that in. In fact, like 15 I said, they've got lined up Mr. -- 16 THE COURT: Well, on the question of credibility, why uy isn't it relevant? 18 MS. McCAWLEY: Because the statement -- so this case 19 is about whether or not she was sexually abused and 20 trafficked -- 21 THE COURT: Now, that's where I started out. Is it 22 about that? If that is your position, that's something else. 23 If it's a question about her sexual abuse, in addition to, then 24 that's something else. But you just said it isn't about that, 25 it's just about Maxwell and did she tell the truth about SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011312