5 H3VOGIU1 1 THE COURT: Yes. But the statement wasn't limited to 2 those allegations. 3 MS. MENNINGER: That's exactly right, your Honor, 4 because right in the middle of that particular statement, the 5 one that's at issue in this case, our client said, "Now her 6 story has grown and evolved, and she's included allegations 7 about world leaders and Alan Dershowitz, which he denies." We 8 can't just take that part out of her statement, that's what 9 Ms. Maxwell put in her statement. 10 And your Honor, what we will ultimately be hearing Pi. from Ms. Maxwell about what she believed were the obvious lies 12 that she was referring to and the allegations that she was 13 referring to when she issued that statement. 14 THE COURT: Now, one other question, and then we'll 15 get to the business of the day. I apologize for this 16 diversion. de Let me ask you both. Suppose the plaintiff proves 18 that she was sexually abused and that her story is 19 substantially true but she does not prove the role that Maxwell 20 had. Does she win? 21 MS. MENNINGER: No, she loses, your Honor. 22 THE COURT: I think she wins. 23 MS. MENNINGER: Your Honor, the very first -- 24 THE COURT: Other than what you've just said. 25 MS. MENNINGER: Your Honor, our client can only be SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011308