From: jeffrey E. <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 12:08 PM To: Joscha Bach Subject: Re: they may have physical prothesitcs like cat wh=skers. to enable it to guage widith of hole. <=div> On Sun, Mar =, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Joscha Bach > =rote: Most animals don't have a self=model, probably because they don't have complex enough brains or long enough training phases (childhoods) to do meta-regulation. > On Mar 5, 2017, at 16:48, jeffrey E. <[email protected] <mailtojeevacation=gmail.com» wrote: > Law of large numbers is all that is needed > On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 5:46 PM Joscha Bach wrote: > From a cybernetics perspective, there is Ashby's "Good Regula=or" theorem, which states that every regulator with enough degrees of=freedom will form a model of what it regulates. The Self is perhaps at its=core a model of our own internal attention regulation, which leads to a pr=tocol of what we attended to, including acts of accessing that protocol it=elf. > I am not sure how to relate that to game theory; you may be able to ge= that without evolutionary competition. However, game theory is probably t=e way to explain how we evolve submission to norms beyond indirect recipro=ity. > On Mar 5, 2017, at 12:12, jeffrey E. <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]» wrote: > > > i wonder in game theory what advantage it gives. . » On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Joscha Bach wrote: > absolutely. so are truth and meaning > > > Am 05.03.2017 um 11:52 schrieb jeffrey E. <[email protected] <[email protected]»: > > > » i is a mental construct that gives an evolutionary advantage , . > » > » On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Joscha Bach wrote: > » I believe that I think, but am "I" the agent of thi=king? >>> >>> >>> > » >>> EFTA_R1_01902445 EFTA02656674