From: on behalf of Ben Goertzel Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 4:30 PM To: jeffrey E. Subject: Re: Emergence of Chomskyan "deep syntactic structure" via probabilistic inference To pose it in a question form, hmmm.... I guess one could say "It seems that, using a probabilistic-logic-based learning system, one obtains a system that LEARNS the deep syntactic structure of a sentence, as an intermediate result DURING THE PROCESS OF learning surface syntactic structure based on comparison of sentences with their non-linguistic referents. This is because deep syntactic structures often share more symmetries and patterns with the logical structure of sentences' non-linguistic referents So a question would be: How could one tell, from the mere presence of deep syntactic structures as patterns in language, whether (or the extent to which) such structures are innate in the brain versus created in the course of learning (created due to their natural structural role as intermediaries between deep semantic structure and surface syntactic structure)?" Well that's kind of complicated, but these are not trivial matters I guess.. The case in point is that if one wants a system to learn the surface structure "Who did Ben tickle?" based on a nonlinguistic referent that has logical structure tickle(Ben, ?) then the probabilistic logic system will, in the course of learning, automatically construct Ben did tickle who? as part of its surface-syntax-learning process.. -- Ben Regarding, > i think he might ask , what happens with ben is tickling sue who is > being ticked by bob while he is being tickled by both EFTA_R1_01551213 EFTA02451626