From: Sent: To: Subject: jeffrey E. <[email protected]> Monda October 24, 2016 5:03 PM Re: yes , i understand, like zero to the zero powe=. Im not sure if its one or zero . could it =e both . ? self referential , is always odd. thats=why i thought a time trick may be called for On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Set= Lloyd > wrote: I'm not sure about self awareness bu= self•referential math famously gives paradoxical result. Thi= capacity for self reference is the basis for Godel's incompleteness t=eorem and Turing's halting problem (plus the free will results that l<=iv>mentioned). Seth On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 5:58 AM, je=frey E. <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]» wrote: my take is that many of the equations br=ak down , into indeterminate form zero to to zero = etc. division by zero. etc. funn. =AO it seems self aware math is also opaque. wrote: - Forward From: Set= Lloyd Date: Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 10:=5 PM Subject: Re: To: "jeffrey E." <[email protected] <[email protected]» That's a tough one! Too tired from =OD blather blather to take it on tonight though. Fun ta=king today. Seth On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 8:35 PM, jeffr=y E. <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]» Alice knows her own state ? No signal needed? On Sunday, October 23, 2016, Seth Lloyd c wrote= EFTA_R1_01 543742 EFTA02446973