From: Misha Gromov Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:10 PM To: Jeffrey E. Subject: Re: Ergobrain generates ideas/illusions of the "world" some are OK and=some are not On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:04:46 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote: persistant illusion? consiousness required.&nb=p; not sure what you mean by illusion On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Misha Gromov <=pan mailto , wr=te: Math in biology may be a persistent illusion. Such an illusion may gener=te something dynamically non- trivial,e.g. physical science or someth=ng essentially static such as philosophy or religion. On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 10:38:19 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote: understood. . however&=bsp; what i like is the concept of pressure . says nothing at =11 about any one molecule , but gives useful information re the statistica= . I wonder if people are more like the indi=idual molecule and only looking at the statistical overview may give=some info. the term social being, means part=of a group. . left isolated the indiv cannot thrive. &nbs=; the study of groups of individuals , actuarial tables etc.&n=sp; seems useful. but only at the boundary s of certainty or z=ro. does it say anything meaningful about any single person. On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Misha Gromov <=pan> <mailto > wr=te: mechanism -- something as sophisticated as Watt's pressure regulat=r EFTA_R1_01413217 EFTA02389268