To: Neil Gershenfeld Fran: Jeffrey Epstein Sent Fri 7/12/2013 12:40:22 PM Subject Re: Friday have you looked at evolutionary graph theory? , my limited understanding of shannons theorums did not assume a give and take with the environment. errors went down exponentially, however the environment stayed constant.thats assuming the " environment" was defined In your idea of bits and atoms, and things that build things that build things, I would suggest that the unspoken punch line is that some of these things should/could be useful ( survivable ). Competing for resources etc ., Evolution builds everything it can , and the according to the local boundary contrainsts whittles the things ( read, groups individuals organisms ) down that temporariliy survive, sometimes with the help of cooperation, competition, alliances. Ara 's chain made dog, fits the evolutionary graph theory well. However nature would factor in gravity, temp, rate of decay, redundancy, limited resources You' ve argued the breakdown of software- hardware, and technology top down , bottom up, I believe the ACTIVE boundary between thing and its environment , mathematics of' membrane computing" , sets up the genetic ( Robert Trivers ) chemical , battle , using shannon like error correction augmented in biology by" deceptive symbols." see you friday On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Neil Gershenfeld < • wrote: Fri 7/19? That's a good day, between 12-6 is flexible. Neil On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Joichi Ito a> wrote: Sony, I should have said Friday next week. - Joi On Jul 11, 2013, at 07:53 , Joichi Ito wrote: > Hey Neil. Jeffrey's thinking of coming to Boston Friday. Any chance you have time? *********************************************************** The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of Jeffrey Ep