From: Jeremy Rubin - Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 2:03 PM To: Jeffrey E. Subject: Re: That seems to fly in the =ace of net neutrality though. I'm not sure I'm fully in the net-ne=tral camp, but having guaranteed QoS and low anonymity will prevent people=from accessing websites that aren't pre-approved pre-vetted content.4=iv> OTOH I could see the need for a QoS guaranteed high latency low bandwi=th network (with origin) to enable the loT sector to build really intercon=ected real time products, without really threatening net neutrality. =div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=;font-size:small;color:#000000"> Knowing origin seems good; but this already exists within the i=ternet to an extent via public key crypto, although perhaps that leaves so=ething to be desired. • On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Jeffrey E. =span dir="ltr"><[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]» wrote: i agree with danny , just like =itcoin or other digital currencies. I think the la=d of binary decision . its either this or that, now usua=ly leads to the answer " both" Forwarded message From: Danny Hillis ><=span> Date: Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 8:33 AM Subject: Re: To: "j=ffrey E." <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]» On the other hand, I wonder if this is a variant of=trumpism, we need to make the internet great again. At what point was it g=eat before? When their were but a select few who were able to access it; a=d everybody on it knew they would be meddled with a bit. Once it went too =ainstream no-longer was being a hacker (or even, user) of such systems an =t-your-own-risk endeavor, but was something that people depended on. =div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:=gb(0,0,0)"> Similar modern endeavors include Urbit, l=nked for posterity ht=ps://urbit.org <https://urbit.org> , which is mostly made incomprehensible for the point of=keeping out the un-enlightened. Ur