From: roger schank To: Jeffrey Epstein <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Today's discussion Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:24:23 +0000 howse? not good are you now in ny / hopkins , where.? still in FL waiting to hear from hopkins as for that conversation -- I have always maintained that we have to find out what people do and try to equal it before we can do better; every time I hear about adding more computing I know people are not thinking clearly talked to a guy yesterday who said in AI these days us old fashioned AI didnt work and statistical AI didnt work very weell, so now the fashionable thing to do is to meld them sounds wrong, esp the part about old stuff not working; I amy be the only one around who remembers what the old days weer really about; no one get the real history at all this is steve kosslyn, ( stanford sychololgy and bach computer science ----- Forwarded message From: Joscha Bach <1 Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM Subject: Re: di a 's discussion To: °M. Cc: Jeffrey Epstein <[email protected]> Dear Stephen, Berlinale is over and I got back to your latest message, and the matter of IQ tests for AI in particular. >> But nonverbal thinking is something that I suspect is quite similarly powerful in other primates. > I think we are much better at this than other primates; our conceptual structures are more powerful, and they in turn drive more powerful mental simulations I remember a very livid discussion at a conference for cognitive modeling (John Anderson and a few others EFTA00954504