From: Joi Ito .1 To: Jeffrey Epstein <[email protected]> Subject: Re: one type of schocastic math and its issues Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:58:38 +0000 You're a bit more aggressive than a Ramora, but I'll give you that one. Probably a closer model. ;-) Did you write Megan about your idea? - Joi On Jul 20, 2013, at 10:42 , Jeffrey Epstein <[email protected]> wrote: re predator for weak arguments„ no. it is more like the ramora for the sharks getting rid of their barnacles of old arguments, however attacking their weak arguments uses the predators energy, therefore is a cheap defense for them I guess that the hope is for a cooperative future arrangement, exposing their strong arguments to attack, is also not necesarny good for either, as the predator shows its teeth making next it easier for repel the next attack. re megan, I think of her issue as a two dimensional , mapping, where accomplishment and recognition, are related but orthogonal. Showing todays young women examples of women in the past who have demonstrated high level of accomplishment but that are still invisible , confirms for some the uselessnes of trying to succeed. is the goal accomplishment or recognition. whether it be for computing skill, running ability of perceived math ability, they had high levels in one dimension and not in the other, I believe the argument needs to be updated , as the arrows on the board, showed women and what women can achieve, I believe that megan woudl be better served showing successful men , as younger generation already know there is no real difference. However, let them explain a womens bridge league seperate from the mens bridge league, Women have alwayss had full opportunity to play cards, but in the end so far cannot compete, I hope that might change but i do not see evidence that supports my hope. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Joi Ito -1 > wrote: Yes, actually we have a substantial sleep research project starting. I have sleep iss