From: roger schank To: jeffrey epstein <jeevacation®gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: weird question Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:37:38 +0000 Begin forwarded message: From: Larry Hunter <I Date: February 12, 2013 8:32:52 AM EST To: roger schank Subject: Re: weird question Strangely, I have a real plan for this, and I would dearly love to find the support it would take to really do it. I'm kind of sick of trying to sneak NIH $$ into doing this. Among other places, I outlined my vision of how to get there in my keynote at the 20th anniversary of the big bioinformatics conference I founded last summer. One tag line: "the first artificial mind will think about molecular biology." So yes, I would come. I wouldn't mind pitching the idea to you sometime, regardless of the billionaire. I agree the AGI folks are largely nuts. Neither Kurzweil nor Goertzel (nor that idiot Hugo deGaris) seem to have anything really coherent to say about how to build an AI. I think Paul Allen's vision of a "digital aristotle" is compatible with what I want to do, so the folks he has working on that (e.g. Vinay Chaudhri at SRI, various folks inside Vulcan) would be interesting, but billionaires often don't like to work with other billionaires, so maybe that's not a good idea. There's a philosopher named Lindley Darden whose theories of explanation in biology are important to my thinking about this, but she's older than us, not younger. If you wanted people under 50, I could come up with a list of folks who have interesting talents to bring to the table, but none think of themselves as working on Al. Larry On Feb 12, 2013, at 6:00 AM, roger schank wrote: my billionaire friend now wants to build real Al unfortunately he has gotten together with AGI people, who look to me like a bunch of nuts he wants to fund a meeting of people that I suggest (including young people I would not know) to discuss how we would build the Al machine we all thought about back in the day EFTA00641693