p.1 Jeffrey Epstein Interview Richard: Here's your power supply, which I borrowed. Jeffrey Epstein: Terrific. So far with the mice, what are seeing about learning? There was an article saying that each neuron now, as opposed to like a switch, its it's own little computer. Do you have the sense there's lots of different inputs? Richard: You can say that, but I'm not sure... Jeffrey: That's useful? Richard: That it's useful to think about the function of the nerve system as reflecting the function of any individual neuron. Jeffrey: Most systems don't... Richard: You can play with the system and get a neuron to do something, but that's not how it works. You need the reserve. So its own source. Jeffrey: Most of the work in viruses and stuff that you do has almost no energy component, right? Richard: I don't know what that means. Energy, if you were going there or wanted to go, that conversation never... Jeffrey: Took off? Richard: Never took off. Jeffrey: In biology there's no driving factor. No physical driving factor. Richard: No, there must be. That is systems will move to a state. You know this better than I. Systems have to move to a state of some sort. Jeffrey: But they - yes. Richard: You can call it a equilibrium. Then you ask yourself what's driving it to that equilibrium. Is it energy? I don't know. No. Jeffrey: Usually things, under the second law, are running themselves down. They're not increasing their energy. Richard: But if you want to talk about physical energy, real... Jeffrey: Yeah, I'm not talking about the growth type of bioenergy. EFTA00432827